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decision cannot be used in arbitration according to the attorney she consulted. She stated that this <br />is being brought to the Committee to find out if they want to settle this issue without arbitration. If <br />we settle without arbitration, we need to revisit our policy. If termination is too severe a <br />consequence for refusal to be tested, the policy should be amended, perhaps to make a refusal the <br />same as a positive test result. In that case, she has been advised by the attorney, if we settle, we <br />should require the Union to sign a statement saying this does not set a precedent. If the decision is <br />to continue to arbitration, she would suggest retaining an attorney who specializes in this at a cost <br />of about $2,500. <br /> <br />Ms. Koskinen stated that last week she talked with Ms. Waite Smith and with Gregg Belsaas. He <br />has agreed to submit to a test and to go to one of the counselors from the names given him by Ms. <br />Wake Smith at the termination hearing. The arbitration would have a cost of $2,000 to $4,000. <br />She noted that in the second to the last paragraph of Waite Smith's memo, one of the things the <br />City did not do - is to give him a chance to have that test taken and did not refer him to a counselor <br />at that time. She stated that termination was too severe for the offense. He could be suspended, <br />but should not be terminated. Treating a refusal as a positive test result is better than what took <br />place. She felt this is positive and it gives the City and the employee some options. With regard to <br />the unemployment award, she disagreed with that - that information could and would be used in <br />arbitration. <br /> <br />Ms. Wake Smith stated she is assuming this State Statute relating to what can be used in arbitration <br />is fairly recent as it is not in the 1994 Statutes. <br /> <br />Ms. Koskinen argued that it is still admissible and suggested that maybe this is not an actual <br />statute, it may have been a proposal to change a statute. <br /> <br />City Administrator Schroeder pointed out that if it were not a statute, it would not have a State <br />Statute number assigned to it. <br /> <br />Ms. Koskinen stated she believes we would not be meeting if this was not a more reasonable <br />approach. <br /> <br />Mayor Hardin inquired if staff and the attorney feel the City's policy is sound. <br /> <br />_Mr. Schroeder replied yes, we are confident that upon completion of the policy, all training, etc. <br />was implemented properly. <br /> <br />With regard to should refusal of the test be grounds for term/nation, Ms. Waite Smith offered that <br />the City of Plymouth is the only city she's aware of that does not have that in their policy. The <br />firrn we contract with to do the random testing said this is the standard policy used across the <br />country. <br /> <br />Councilmember Beyer noted that AFSCME was a part of drafting the policy and they agreed it was <br />okay. Then we get the first test and the stories change. She expressed having a real problem with <br />that. Will we have to amend the policy again? Will we be setting a precedence? If we have to <br />amend our policy, I would rather it be done in binding arbitration. <br /> <br />Ms. Koskinen stated that Ms. Waite Smith mentioned a written disclaimer by the Union that this <br />would not be setting a precedent. This is a better way to deal with these issues and make sure <br />employees have some protection as well as having the obligation to have an evaluation, In this <br />case, she said she can understand what his problem was with having to testify. <br /> <br />Personnel Committee/November 26, 1996 <br /> Page 2 of 5 <br /> <br /> I <br /> I <br /> I <br />I <br />I <br />I <br />I <br />I <br />I <br />I <br />I <br />I <br />i <br />I <br />I <br />I <br />I <br />I <br />I <br /> <br /> <br />