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Further Discussion: Commissioner Hendriksen noted that the proposed amendment establishes minimum lot sizes along with 4 in 40 density zoning and inquired as to who initiated the proposed 10 acre lot size minimum in the City's rural area. Mr. Banwart replied that City Council expressed a desire to facilitate the hobby farm lifestyle north of Trott Brook and at the same time address some of Metro Council concerns. Mr. Otto explained that the City's ordinance does specify a one unit per 10 acres density in the rural area; Metro Council has found fault with how the City has been interpreting that ordinance (allowing 2.5 acre subdivisions based on the City's gross area but not adjusting that figure as land develops). Commissioner Hendriksen noted that Metro Council would allow one acre minimum lot sizes as long as the 4 in 40 density policy is met; inquired as to why the City is being more restrictive than Meu:o Council by requiring 10 acre minimum lot sizes in certain areas. Mr. Otto explained that there are two areas of the City proposed to have 10 acre minimum lot sizes; one is the urban reserve area and the intent was to avoid creation of barriers, through development, that would affect the readiness of this area for urban service area expansion; the other area is north of Trott Brook and the intent was to provide a broad range of opportunities from urban density to very large lots. Commissioner Deemer stated that he does not feel the 10 acre minimum lot size north of Trott Brook will be a hardship to those property owners since much of that land is not developable and he expects that the Metro Council density policy will be changed within 2 years. Mr. Otto stated that implementation of the 4 in 40 density zoning has been scheduled in a way that allows those property owners that are interested, the time to get their property platted; if housing trends hold, the City will have a 3-4 year supply of lots in the urban and in the rural area; if housing trends drop, that supply of lots can be stretched to 6-9 years; during that time, the City can pursue it's efforts to have Metro Council change the density policy. Commissioner Bawden stated that he doesn't feel giving in to Metro Council's demand for 4 in 40 density zoning strengthens the City's efforts to get that policy changed. Mr. Otto stated that 93% of the cities in Anoka County are not in compliance with the 4 in 40 density policy and the past 10 years of fighting it has not worked; the only way cities can achieve additional development in their urban areas is to comply with Metro Council's policy and work to change it. Motion failed: Voting Yes: Commissioners Deemer, Shumway and LaDue. Voting No: Chairman Zimmerman, Commissioners Hendriksen and Bawden. Absent: Commissioner Terry. Commissioner Shumway stated that the 4 in 40 density policy is unfair to those that have held unto land as a investment for retirement and now the doors to development are closed. COMMISSION BUSINESS (CONTINUATION OF NOVEMBER 6, 1989 AGENDA) Case #12: Request For A Conditional Use Permit To Operate A Recreational Vehicle Sales Lot In The I-1 Industrial District; Case Of Mark Manthei And Robert McElhaney, W.S. Motors: Robert McElhaney and Mark Manthei were present. Robert McElhaney stated that he is requesting a conditional use permit to operate a recreational vehicle sales lot at 14250 Sunfish Lake Blvd. N.W. The request includes having a maximum inventory of 30 vehicles for sale; the area proposed for vehicle sales is currently paved; the improvements to the property include painting the existing building and planting shrubs. Planning & Zoning Commission/November 21, 1989 Page 4 of 8