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I ! I I I I I I I I I I I I '1 I Commissioner Sieber stated that 7.05~04 ties a lot of disconnected p~o~ec,~s together. Unless you tie them altogether, the City could fin~ i~self over it's debt limit. Chairman Heitman stated that the charter does not preclude that the twoi:cafl't be on the same report; it is assurance that the sum of the parks .is not greater than the whole. C~.C~iSsioner Greenberg brought up Mr. Schnelle's recommendation that thei. ch~rter specify Planning and Zoning be including in the development o~ ~he~Capital Improvement Program. CO~iS~ioner Gamec stated it is not necessary to specify P & Z input in ~he ~charter; it would be dumb for any council not to seek P & Z in, ut to the CIP. CO~igSioner Sieber stated that putting the CIP in the hands of P & Z dilutes power from the people who voted Council in and puts power in the hands of a non-elected commission. ~issioner Lichter brought out for rediscussion Mr. Burggraaff's CO,eBbs: 'language is too broad' and '5 year plan is bad, from a nggOt~tion standpoint, for the City'. C~issioner Lichter brought ~D City Accountant's recommendation to go with two years rather than 5~ year~ on Public Service Program. O0~miS~ion read through and summarized the following sections: 17.05.02 - Public Service Program - Services City is or will be supplying in the future. i~7.05.03 - C~pital Improvement Program - Describes facilities and projects necessary to support services required. '?.0~5.04 - Long Term P~venue Program - Bow services and facilities will be paid for. 17.05.0~ - Capital Budget Program - Shall require a summary of projects and establish priority. Cx~mission consensus is that ~.05.05 could use a heading modification. ~o~mimsion consensus was to modify 7.05.05 as follows: Change the title ~o,~get Summary Program. Replace the phrase 'the capital or money re~Ui~ements' with 'estimated revenues and expenditures as necessary'. Le~g~y discussion ensued regarcling requiring 2 year plans versus 5 year plans4 There was some discussion that the public service program be for 5!years; the first two years being detailed and the last three Y~ars~could be a projection based on inflation. Motion by Commissioner Titterud and seconded by Commissioner Bauerkemper for a recess. Motion ~arried. Voting Yes: C~airm~n Heit~,~n, Commissioners t auerke~per, Gamec, T~tte~ud, Data, Lichter, Greenberg and Sieber. Voting No: Nero. Absent: iCor~;~£~ioner Buchanan. CC/l~ceml~r 8, 1983 Page 4 of 8