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~_ial Meeting- Council <br />April. 30,..~g79 ?age Jl <br /> <br />PCA - We are aware of it, our budget is limited, we sample this site and <br />17 others and in looking at the lab tests we felt that the well could have <br />nitrate due to reasons other than the landfill. <br /> <br />Mr. Sha said he is the first to concede that some of the perimeters are <br />expensive to obtain but in perspective in what it might create for the people, <br />Waste Management could get the money back from the people it serves to pay <br />for that service. The City is not seeing the monitoring results. After the <br />City's request, sampling results were sent too late for us to do anything <br />about it. When there is an abnormal sample, the logical thing to do is <br />go back and resample it and find out what it is and where it's coming from, <br />this isn't being done, it is being written off. The City is concerned about <br />the heavy metals because of the sludge operation that was going on for years. <br />There ought to be some annual examinations in the sampling wells and private <br />wells. We are concerned with what's down there that Ramsey will have to <br />live with a good long time. <br /> <br />Councilman Cox said his point is that the people came here to get answers <br />from the agencies that control the landfill. These agencies should realize <br />what the people have to put up with. The City as a governmental body is <br />treated as though we don't exist. It is almost impossible to get any cooperation. <br />The answer to our engineer's letter was pretty much telling us to go fly a kite. <br />He doesn't think it is appropriate for these agencies to treat the City in that <br />manner when the City is trying to be accountable to its peo~e.~ ~ <br /> <br />PCA responded that they are not a local zoning agency. Thb~vare state-wide. <br />Homes have been constructed since the time the landfill was first created, <br />it is a problem of proximity. <br /> <br />Councilman Cox said that he didn't hear Mr. Otter answer any questions with <br />a yes or no. The City has to depend on agencies like PCA to see that things <br />are done. It is about time credibility and accountability come back to <br />government. People deserve answers. <br /> <br />L. Ziemer asked who pays for cleaning up water that is contaminated. <br /> <br />Mayor Gamec said that it would probably result in a lawsuit running from <br />three to five years. <br /> <br />Councilman Cox said who could prove the landfill caused the contamination. <br /> <br />Mr. Dunn said he has viewed a 55.gallon can at a home near the dump that <br />he could see Some~h'i~gwas dumped out, who knows what it was, who knows tha~ <br />someone doesn't drive around duri.ng the night dumping chemicals. <br />Where is the list of concerns going to end. <br /> <br />Councilman Cox said someone should accept the responsibility of periodic <br />monitoring of what is being dumped,, hazardous waste has to be coming into <br />the landfill more than we want to .think about. <br /> <br />Mr, Hutchinson commented on a "Bar Study", which provides for going to <br />the source to control what is being dumped. <br /> <br />Mayor Gamec announced that the remainder of the meeting would be a Special <br />Council meeting to consider alternative ways of assessing a proposed <br />strep$ improvement for 161st Avenue N.W. lyingbetweeng Armstrong Blvd N.W. <br />and Llama St. N.W. and Llama St. N.W. lying between 161st Ave. N.W. and 163rd <br />Avenue N.W. <br /> <br /> <br />