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the Federal Forest Service is going to take some tests to see if the soil is <br />causing the trees to die and until the city receives this information from them, <br />there isn't much to relate. He said he has a friend in Stacy~ Minnesota and <br />they are having al~st the same problem with their trees and they are dying <br />in the outer perimeter just like Ramsey's. <br /> <br />Ms. Ritchie fmom the State Health Department said it appeared to her that the <br />Federal Forest Service would be able to discern whether it is the Landfill that <br />is causing the problem. She said next week, the Health Department could test <br />the homes in the area, keeping the question in mind of what effect on children <br />the methane gas would have. She said the primary concern with methane is that <br />it is asphyxias, but the concentrations would have to be 20 to 30% by volume <br />for this.because the physiological processes in the body can tolerate higher <br />levels of gases than the 3 to 5% explosive levels. Therefore, this would not, <br />in her opinion, he the problem here. She said the buildup would be much higher <br />if a house was closed up. She said there would be some seepage of methane <br />in and out of the homes, which they would check. She said she thought the <br />concern about children who don't get outside like in ~winter time is an important <br />issue to look into. <br /> <br />Mr. Don Farb, Barr Engineering, said they are consulting with the County on <br />their Landfill. He said published literature shows there is no toxic effect <br />at the 2% methane level. <br /> <br />Mayor Gamec observed that the real concern seems to be the explosive level of <br />the methane. <br /> <br />City Administrator Schnelle said that no one really knows for sure if there is <br />a toxic effect or not and he felt this was a concern also. <br /> <br />Mr. Gregory Woelfel, Regional Engineer with Waste Management, Inc., said they <br />believe that the problem, if one exists, is a combination of two issues. <br />During last fail, lime sludge was placed on the west slope and it sealed <br />it off keeping methane from escaping from the Landfill. This week, they <br />discovered a malfunction of the timely device on the methane pump and this <br />is being corrected. They did monitoring of residential homes last night and <br />did not detect any methane. They will put in detection alarms to go off when <br />the methane levels go up before they r~ach the explosive levels. <br /> <br />County Commissioner Ed Fields said he thought when they hired Bart Engineering <br />last year, these problems would be checked, & it is too bad they didn't find <br />the present problem before the residents did. He said it was an embarassing <br />situation. <br /> <br />Mr. Farb, Bart Engineering said they concentrated on the water quality of the <br />Landfill and had not been looking at the gas levels at all. He said they <br />are two weeks fmom finishing at this time and were not prepared to give <br />information at this time. <br /> <br />City Administrator Schnelle reiterated that the citizens are concer~ned about <br />the health and safety hazard and how long it is going to be before something <br />is done about it. <br /> <br />Ms. Ritchie said the State Health Department was notified yesterday of the <br />problem and next week, she' is going to come back and take samples for methane <br />and other bases in the homes and the areas to and fromthe homes to the Landfill. <br /> <br />Special Council <br />August 15, 1980 <br /> Page 3 <br /> <br /> <br />