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new policy now states that the entire length of any private street that exceeds 300 feet has to have <br />a cul-de-sac that meets City standards but also has to be constructed 32 feet wide. <br /> <br />Councilmember Zimmerman inquired if the 32 foot width was measured back to back curb. <br /> <br />Principal City Engineer Olson replied yes, explaining that if cars were parked on both sides of <br />the street there would still be 16 feet. <br /> <br />Councilmember Zimmerman inquired if staff felt that 16 feet was sufficient. <br /> <br />Director of Public Works/Fire Chief Kapler stated that he was quite confident they could get a <br />fire truck down the road at 16 feet. <br /> <br />Principal City Engineer Olson noted that the current public street policy is 30 feet wide, noting <br />that staff would be open to changing that policy. <br /> <br />Councilmember Zimmerman felt that the requirements should be the same. <br /> <br />Principal City Engineer Olson replied that that was the first proposal, but there was a concern <br />that there might be more street parking in a townhome development. <br /> <br />Councilmember Hendriksen stated that they started talking about private streets as being <br />driveways, but now they are talking about 600 foot driveways. He stated that he did not think the <br />City should allow for private streets at all. <br /> <br />Councilmember Anderson stated that the differences seem to be snow storage and setbacks that <br />aren't required on private streets. <br /> <br />Councilmember Hendriksen stated that if they were going to allow private drives then they <br />needed to be kept at a shorter length. <br /> <br />Councilmember Anderson stated that the configuration of the parcel could impact the design. <br /> <br />Principal City Engineer Olson stated that the rationale behind the 600 foot length is because that <br />is the public street standard. <br /> <br />Councilmember Hendriksen stated that he felt that private streets should be below the public <br />street standards, which is why he thought 300 feet was reasonable. <br /> <br />Councilmember Zimmerman inquired if it was possible for the Fire Department to fight a fire if <br />they couldn't get down a 600 foot street. <br /> <br />Director of Public Works/Fire Chief Kapler explained that the Fire Department is geared to pull a <br />hose for up to 1,400 feet, but it would not be the ideal way to fight a fire. <br /> <br />Public Works Committee/March 19, 2002 <br /> Page 8 of 18 <br /> <br /> <br />