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I be requested to attend. I Mr. Schnelle stated that maybe this issue could be addressed within the City Nuisance Ordinance. Mr. Schnelle also noted that if the City does take action, all violators should be catalogued so that in the event a case would go to court, the City could prove equal treatment. I I Case #5: Review Of Paragraph 110.025 Entitled "Firing Ranges" Of Section 110.02 Entitled "Firearms" Of The City Code: I Mr. Berg stated that Police Chief Auspos has recommended review of this paragraph. It has been recommended that anyone wanting to own and operate a firing range in Ramsey should be taken through the conditional use process. I I Commissioner Deemer provided a map of Ramsey designating the only legal areas where firearms can be discharged. It showed that there is not much legal area for shooting in Ramsey. Mr. Deemer recommended overhauling the present ordinance designating areas legal for firearm discharge, that police officers can't even tell people where they can shoot and where they can't. Commissioner Zimmerman arrived at this time. I Mr. Berg stated that considering the density in Ramsey, he feels the City is beyond allowing hunting in the City. I Commissioner Deemer stated that he is all for no firearms in Ramsey, that the ordinance is unenforceable. I Commissioner Zimmerman disagreed and stated that he lives less than 1500' from the St. Anthony Gun Club and he has never had any problems. Large landowners are paying very high taxes and now you want to take away their hunting privileges. I I Commissioner Deemer replied that the landowners don't have the right now, ordinance reads 1500' from any structure (not just dwellings); you can' t grandfather in rights to discharge weapons. I Commission consensus is that the firing range operation fall under conditional use procedures. Case #6: Informational: I I Commissioner Deemer presented copies of an input regarding the proposed charter which he submitted to the Charter Commission at their last regular meeting. I Discussion ensued whether or not Charter should address the issue of P & Z being involved with the Capital Improvement Budget. Mr. Berg stated that the intent of the charter is to let Council set the direction of the various cOmmQssions. I Mr. Schnelle stated that the charter should eliminate qray areas, that commissions should be created in the charter. Charter should also specify P & Z being involved with the Capital Inprovement Program. I I P & Z/November 1, 1983 Page 5 of 6