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@ Oliphant (cont): consulted that an exhausting study t'las made of the City of Ramsey , finding the best possible place for our children to go to elementary school. And, I further agree that there was absolutely no discussion that the property located directly across from that school would be zoned R I or that our comprehensive plan at that time 4IIJ would be changed to commercial. Absolutely right. Cox: You also agree then that that was discussed very thoroughly, and it was not indicated that it would not be commercial or residential. Other than that it was in the mill as being zoned RI. Oliphant: The information that I have is that this ,area was never considered at that point to be rezoned to commercial. My information is that had that consideration at that point been brought to the attention of the school board, the decision might well have been much different. Cox: And, who has provided you with that information? Oliphant; Mr. Earl Johnson, the superintendent of District 11, and Mr. Tucker, with whom I talked with yesterday. Oliphant: That concludes that point, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, the third point is personal point to you. You mayor may not want to answer questions. We do allege that there is a either a personal or a possible pecuniary interest in the land which was rezoned, andJ.it is our judgement that because of the interest, possible pecuniary or personal interest, that you should continue to abstain. I presume under the rules we are going to apply the City Attorney, Mr. Gorham's, right to either refuse to answer questions. I would call him as a witness, but he has a right not to be a witness. Goodrich: That is correct. 4IIJ Gorham: At this time, I vJOuld not like to be a 'l-ritness. I would like to have it made a point at this hearing that Gary Gorham did thru City Attorney, Bill Goodrich, receive an Attorney General's opinion. And that Attorney General's opinion and the letter written to the Attorney General stating the facts that Gary Gorham had given to Bill Goodrich so that he could write the letter to the Attorney General were read at a public meeting on April 14 and made a part of that meeting. Oliphant: Mr. Gorham, Mr. Chairman, if it would be permissable, I would ask that those two letters be made a part of the record of this meeting. Gorham: Yes. Albert: Mr. Chairman, may I call attention to something in the petition to the Board at this point, by way of allegation? Goodrich: It is up to the Chairman. Albert: 'I call your attention to Section 4, subparagraph L. To a statement made under oath as follows: That Councilman Gorham abstained from the ,original vote on March 24 on the rezoning issue believing his vote was not needed for the measure to pass. I also call your attention to subparagraph M and the last sentence thereof: This refers to the meeting of April 19, that prior to casting his vote Councilman Gorham obtainted an opinion from the State Attorney General's office indicating that there was not a conflict of interest. The petitioners are unaware of the extent of the facts given to the attorney General's office which resulted in the opinion. I would like council for A the petitioners to stipulate that not only was he present but that the petitioners were W'present at the meeting that that matter was read. Oliphant: We were present, Mr. Albert; however, I have not received a formal letter from the Attorney General. Nor, were we advised of what facts either the City Attorney whom Mr. Gorham personally given to.... INTERRUPTION. . .